The Word "Ghetto"- What Does it Mean to You?

[Petit Papillon]

Oh You and Your American Dream becoming true awwwww : )

[Gribble]

Bleh. You can have the American Dream.

[ecojeanne]

No, not true at all. This is the very thinking that is ruining this country. Society doesn't tell those people where to go- THEY do. IT'S NOT SOCIETIES FAULT, IT'S THEIRS, don't shift the blame! That's bullshit, and that kind of attitude is ruining the "do it yourself" mentality that made this country successful

When my dad and his family came to this country they had next to nothing. Now, EVERYONE on his side of the family is at least middle class. They grew up in a part of Buffalo with a lot of poor immigrants that is just as poor as the ghetto areas today, but the people living there had the resolve to WORK and DO WELL IN SCHOOL to become successful

lol DM you're so funny the way you get so passionate..

it's the only place they can afford to live (therefore they are relegated to that area) and if the area's weren't ghetto they would have better nicer cleaner areas (therefore are stuffed in by society to forget about) and as people in the ghetto make money they move out. simple they get forgotten about by their own too. ygg is right...bring it ON!

actually Ireland is pretty good that way they will always have social housing in every area no matter how posh, it's the law

p.s. thats why we don't have ghettos

[Petit Papillon]

****ing gay gay gay thread. x3.

gay is the way You try to keep Your `date guide `thread being REAL hehehehehe .Stop trying ,then others will treat You and Your advices for real ; )

[ecojeanne]

****ing gay gay gay thread. x3.

feeling a tad bit jealous and bitter?? your thread ain't goin' so well eh? lol, don't feel bad, you win some, you lose some

[Gribble]

Drive through a poor part of Baltimore for example and you'll see people sitting on their porches. They aren't working. They aren't striving to get out of the ghetto. They've just given up or they never tried to begin with. No matter how vocal they may be, the truth is nobody forced them there. Opportunities exist for those who pursue them.

Not everyone in the ghetto is a deadbeat. Some are on their way out, some actually do have valid complaints. Many, however, choose not to work for it and so they spend their lives in the ghetto pointing an accusatory finger at anyone and anything they can.

[ecojeanne]

it benefits society if people aren't relegated to particular areas. down the road from me there are families that would be in the ghetto if they lived in any other country but mine. it means that there is less crime in specific areas and people feel less looked down on. that in itself it a motivation to do better. but if all their neighbours were in the same boat then imo its less encouraging to trying harder

[DoesntMatter]

and if the area's weren't ghetto they would have better nicer cleaner areas (therefore are stuffed in by society to forget about)

And? Should everyone live equally? Kids brought up in those areas are given the opportunity to do well in school and go on to college and get a good career. Who gives a shit about how "clean" some area is? To a focused person that would not distract them from achieving what they want

And BTW, the neighborhood my dad grew up in, while although poor, WAS clean and safe because the people weren't nincompoop lazy deadbeats. Poorness does not equal dirty and dangerous, it depends on who is living there. Where my dad grew up it was European immigrants who were poor. The poor areas you talk about are black ghettos who have been here for generations

p.s. thats why we don't have ghettos

Wrong. You don't have ghettos because you don't have black people. The VAST majority (almost all) of these poor people you claim are being somehow systematically forced to live in certain areas (an outrageous but typical liberal claim) are black. You don't have that in Ireland

That is something non-Americans will never understand, and something liberal Americans will try to deny. It's what makes our cities so much different from yours. More than half of the people who live in most American cities are black, and they generally live in the poor "ghetto" areas that cause all the crime, take the welfare, and give our cities a reputation for being "dangerous." Your cities are homogeneous as f*ck

[ecojeanne]

would you reckon that is because of your history of slavery maybe? they congregated and never left due to discrimination on the outside and now find it difficult to integrate maybe?

just a thought

[DoesntMatter]

I'm very happy that when my dad came to this country with nothing he busted his ass instead of getting a job at Wal-mart or sitting outside a 7-11 waiting for someone to pick him up to build a deck. Thanks to his efforts, his blood, his tears, I get to drag my feet and bitch about how hard I have it while I sit in an air conditioned apartment in a nice part of town. I get to gripe about money not because I can't afford to pay the bills or put food on the table, but because I can't afford to buy the motorcycle I want until next month.

Exactly. My dad didn't think anything of working all throughout high school while still graduating at the top 5 of his class. He made money to pay for school and made the grades to get into school

He didn't think much about working 40 hours a week in college at a steel mill from midnight to 8AM every Mon - Fri to help pay for expenses, he knew that's how you get ahead. All while graduating at the top of his class

Oh yeah, and he lived in a poor area just how we are describing now. Only the poor areas were filled with European immigrants who worked hard, took care of the small properties they lived on, and didn't cause crime because they wanted to WORK to get ahead. What's the difference between that and the "new" poor areas we are describing? Oh yeah, they are the black ghettos. There's the difference

The problem is in the work ethic and attitude

[Petit Papillon]

Wrong. You don't have ghettos because you don't have black people.

Who gives a funk that Your dad comes from Europe if You dunno shit about Europe? There is a lot of blacks in UK,France and Spain tadaaaa (in Germany quite lot too)

[ecojeanne]

Your cities are homogeneous as f*ck

thats actually a good thing

as in we are all human and able to mix unlike more unequal countries like yours, sorry but it's true

[DoesntMatter]

Who gives a funk that Your dad comes from Europe if You dunno shit about Europe? There is a lot of blacks in UK,France and Spain tadaaaa (in Germany quite lot too)

Hahahaha... NO.

I've been to Europe (Italy and Switzerland). Compared to the US there are almost NO blacks

And btw, when I say black I am referring to African-Americans, not black people in general. Italy has a number of illegal immigrants from Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, etc...

And besides, I DON'T NEED PERSON EXPERIENCE TO KNOW DEMOGRAPHICS! Detroit is over 80% black. Madrid, Spain, is over 80% SPANIARD

Most American cities are over 50% black. Europe doesn't compare. I do know what I'm talking about. 80% is a lot greater than 5%

[Petit Papillon]

Hahahaha... NO.

I've been to Europe (Italy and Switzerland). Compared to the US there are almost NO blacks

And btw, when I say black I am referring to African-Americans, not black people in general. Italy has a number of illegal immigrants from Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, etc...

And besides, I DON'T NEED PERSON EXPERIENCE TO KNOW DEMOGRAPHICS! Detroit is over 80% black. Madrid, Spain, is over 80% SPANIARD

Most American cities are over 50% black. Europe doesn't compare. I do know what I'm talking about. 80% is a lot greater than 5%

Oh yeah You have visited Italy and Switzerland and You know eeeeverything about Europe - can I start to laugh?
You would have to live here or visit at least 10 countries to be able to say You know SOMETHING about Europe little man

PS. I know Madrid is in Spain ,but one city doesn`t show whole picture buddy,especially picture of whole Europe lol

Yeahhhhh mr Smart guy tell me more

[DoesntMatter]

thats actually a good thing

as in we are all human and able to mix unlike more unequal countries like yours, sorry but it's true

Our country is more unequal because we have a lot more rich people than you do. So it would in fact look very unequal

Economic inequality is a good thing because it means some kind of meritocracy is at work

BTW, you can't talk about "mixing" in IRELAND. Ireland is 95% white. And of that, you are talking mostly Irish and British. There isn't anything to mix