WOW, this thread has gone so many differnet ways..and to clarify to Cybog.. we are still generally on topic!
Neo, you stated men go to war and you would rather have a baby then have your legs shot off, incinuating women don't go to war or deal with any of that stuff. And why can't guys understand women face similar issues in peer pressure as well. It's the same for both sexes. We are also called names or labeled as losers for not doing things are doing differnet things. And last time I checked, both sexes had problems with drugs, having sex, and doing things that are bad. I mean come on haven't you ever heard of guys pressuring virgin girls to have sex with them, not to mention their own sex ppressuring them as well. Like I said before everyone thinks it harder for them. Because they will never Trully understand!
Cybog, I believe things in life that are worth it are worth the temporary pain and anguish to achieve them but maybe that's me. Add I agree with shh, about the vasectomy...
If you can't handle the thorns, don't crave the rose!!