Sarah Palin

[DoesntMatter]

What about John McCain being too old? Is that a valid reason not to vote for him?

Perfectly valid

[starbuck]

DM, can you have your dad come on and explain all the economic stuff to me, too?

[DoesntMatter]

lol, if my dad knew I went on a love forum he wouldn't be able to stop laughing, in which case he would be unable to answer any kinds of questions

[Lipp]

Well, if not going into details I dislike how McCain's military career has such an influence on what he prefers to talk about and his policies, and I think that Obama would be a far better mediator with other states, which I find to be an important quality.

I prefer Obama's strategy about tax cuts, though I prefer McCain's strategy for Iraq that withdrawing should be done based on the symptoms rather than a set date, otherwise it'd be easy as hell for the insurgency to lay low and rise up as soon as the troops are gone.

Dislike McCain's solution to tackling climate change, just building a shitload of nuclear power plants is a naïve way of doing it, especially if you see terrorism as an issue.

Obama's healthcare owns McCain's, who keeps on mentioning military veterans seemingly just to get votes.

And I prefer Obama's stand on abortion.

[starbuck]

Obama's healthcare owns McCain's, who keeps on mentioning military veterans seemingly just to get votes.

This is just like Palin advocating for special needs kids, too. It's a transparent sympathy ploy to get votes.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/us/politics/07needs.html?pagewanted=all[/url]

From the NY Times article:

"In animated debates in blogs, chat rooms and classrooms across America, others wondered what such advocacy would entail. But the governor offered no details, and Maria Comella, her spokeswoman, would not elaborate on what Ms. Palin would seek to accomplish for disabled children as vice president. “She is going to be an advocate in the White House on multiple levels,” Ms. Comella said in an e-mail message Friday, “because she understands the issue, what’s needed and what works.”

To those in Alaska who work with children with special needs, Ms. Palin’s pronouncement was surprising; the disabled have not been a centerpiece of Ms. Palin’s 20-months in office or any of her campaigns for office."

[Gribble]

This bullshit again, "If Obama doesn't win it's because of the racists!"

And also that painting the general American population to be a horde of uneducated, simple-minded people

Such bullshit untrue elitism. Again why I hate the so-called "intellectual thought," because it is wrong

I am referring to the sort of people who listen to pro-American Country music, who hate Indians because they kinda look like the people who flew planes into the WTC, who fear people who've gone to college, who won't vote Obama because his middle name's Hussein and his first name's one letter away from Osama.

Never said that was everyone. But people like that do exist. And they exist in sufficient numbers to throw shit out of whack if given the chance.

[DoesntMatter]

I think that Obama would be a far better mediator with other states, which I find to be an important quality.

Are you kidding? Obamas foreign policy blows. He's ready to get down on his knees and suck any ambassadors dick

Dislike McCain's solution to tackling climate change, just building a shitload of nuclear power plants is a naïve way of doing it, especially if you see terrorism as an issue.

Naive way of doing it? NO, hell no. France has already done this. I ENVY the French for getting their act together after the 1973 oil crisis. Now they are a net EXPORTER of energy because of their nuclear initiative. Nuclear IS a sustainable form of energy. And I'm dying for more to spring up, as in, to increase the number of plants by a factor of 5 or so because the new generation IV plants are supposedly to be more effecient

[DoesntMatter]

I am referring to the sort of people who listen to pro-American Country music, who hate Indians because they kinda look like the people who flew planes into the WTC, who fear people who've gone to college, etc.

This demographic is largely the workup and imagination of intellectuals in this country. Using this demographic may work well for some academic exercise but attributing it to real life is crap because it is negligible. All those things you mentioned are the liberal bias and stereotypes against people from Middle America, which a handful of people on love forum have

[doppelgaenger]

lol, if my dad knew I went on a love forum he wouldn't be able to stop laughing, in which case he would be unable to answer any kinds of questions

Now I know how to blackmail you

[Gribble]

This demographic is largely the workup and imagination of intellectuals in this country. Using this demographic may work well for some academic exercise but attributing it to real life is crap because it is negligible. All those things you mentioned are the liberal bias and stereotypes against people from Middle America, which a handful of people on love forum have

No. That's the demographic I had to live with for three years when I was on the Chesapeake.

[DoesntMatter]

Well obviously I can't speak for that area because I have never been there but I haven't ever seen the demographic you described in any appreciable numbers. And considering half of my family is spread throughout southern Indiana and Kentucky, you would expect that to be one of the prime sources of such people

However I think you have a certain mentality and are just going to see things a certain way regardless, as most liberals do

[Lipp]

Are you kidding? Obamas foreign policy blows. He's ready to get down on his knees and suck any ambassadors dick

I meant personality-wise, perhaps it matters more for other country's leaders than over in the U.S, but I can't picture McCain having a sensible discussion with troublesome world leaders. Either way, you'd probably say that to anyone who prefers not to show off their guns as means of "keeping the peace". Would be nice to have someone who's sensible enough to discuss rather than "This is our stand, we don't want to change whatever you say, if you got a problem with it we'll sanction you and if need be invade". That sure got you a lot of friends.

Naive way of doing it? NO, hell no. France has already done this. I ENVY the French for getting their act together after the 1973 oil crisis. Now they are a net EXPORTER of energy because of their nuclear initiative. Nuclear IS a sustainable form of energy. And I'm dying for more to spring up, as in, to increase the number of plants by a factor of 5 or so because the new generation IV plants are supposedly to be more effecient

It is naive to rely on a single simple solution to the problem. I dont mind nuclear power much, but I think it would be more efficient to focus on multiple sources of clean energy to cope with it. Sure, you could go all-out on nuclear power, but to treat it as a miraculous solution to all of your problems is not feasible until research progresses far enough to make it safer, such as cold fusion. If not it will take a few decades and then when the issue isn't about clean energy it'll be about nuclear waste contaminating areas when seeping out of storages and nuclear reactors doing emergency shutdowns because of poor maintenance.

[DoesntMatter]

I like you Lipp. You give Swedes a good name

[starbuck]

I meant personality-wise, perhaps it matters more for other country's leaders than over in the U.S, but I can't picture McCain having a sensible discussion with troublesome world leaders. Either way, you'd probably say that to anyone who prefers not to show off their guns as means of "keeping the peace". Would be nice to have someone who's sensible enough to discuss rather than "This is our stand, we don't want to change whatever you say, if you got a problem with it we'll sanction you and if need be invade". That sure got you a lot of friends.

McCain has a scaaary temper. He can't even keep his cool with reporters. I would be afraid of him meeting with world leaders after seeing clips like this.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj7HbqwZwRM"]YouTube - John McCain Loses Temper With NY Times Reporter[/ame]

[Mish]

One other problem with McCain ticket is that he needs to run against his own party in order to win. He needs to convince the public that he is different and his history of support for the present administration is going to stand in his way. But he will try anyway.

[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7641677.stm[/url]