Does anybody else feel particularly patriotic on July 4th?

[Yggdrasil]

That's unrelated to what I said and what you quoted, you fuccking idiot. And what makes you think I don't fix my own computer or other devices?

There is a difference between a handyman and an engineer. Apparently you wouldn't know

Then be more specific with what you mean.

All these people with service type jobs

includes them to.

Who's the idiot here?

[IndiReloaded]

Ygg, DM wants to be a physician. Anesthesiology, if he can get accepted into med school. He forgets medicine is a service business; car mechanics for people.

[Yggdrasil]

Ygg, DM wants to be a physician. Anesthesiology, if he can get accepted into med school. He forgets medicine is a service business; car mechanics for people.

Yeah thanks.

I made my point. It's not worth fighting over.

[Doc Durian]

First off, WHAT the fucck makes Fras more qualified to answer that than other people? IIRC they have a longer work day than people from any other country. It doesn't take personal experience to know that

Fras, I would suspect, has been exposed to many facets of TPS, just as I've intimately worked with it over the years.

The number of work hours in various countries are irrelevant to your argument. It's how the hours are worked which is the key.

Secondly, my dad has been to Japan before when working with them on projects and knows firsthand the long hours they work. At least the engineers at the company they were working with

And?

[IndiReloaded]

LOL, I know. How about advice from someone whose actually BEEN to Japan. Or lived there?

[ecojeanne]

what does having BEEN to japan have anything to do with facts? hmmm machine?

[Mish]

if i was born in america i would have been born on the 4th of july...wish me a happy birthday

Happy Birthday Jeanne!!

I'll have a beer today just for you and Amerika (since my new found love for it)

[Mish]

I hate socialism, Eco. I've been forced to live amongst it nearly half my life.

It's disgusting and weak.

I think she meant more money towards public facilities like transport systems and healthcare and not socialism Doc. Half of the people I meet here complain about both with passion. And through my personal experience I'm already coming to the same conclusion. Sydney transport is crappy, but it's heaven compared to Chicago public transport system. It needs a lot more investment and development.

[Doc Durian]

I think she meant more money towards public facilities like transport systems and healthcare and not socialism Doc. Half of the people I meet here complain about both with passion. And through my personal experience I'm already coming to the same conclusion. Sydney transport is crappy, but it's heaven compared to Chicago public transport system. It needs a lot more investment and development.

Australia is an overtaxed artificially inflated economy which operates with capitalism when it suits, and socialism when they want to raise taxes and fill coffers.

Get out of there while you can.

[Mish]

Australia is an overtaxed artificially inflated economy which operates with capitalism when it suits, and socialism when they want to raise taxes and fill coffers.

Get out of there while you can.

No way dude. It's been a lucky country for a century for a reason. It's much better there than anywhere else I've been so far.

[DoesntMatter]

includes them to.

Who's the idiot here?

No asshole, engineering is not a service sector job

Ygg, DM wants to be a physician. Anesthesiology, if he can get accepted into med school. He forgets medicine is a service business; car mechanics for people.

No I don't. I just want to make a lot of money and at least doctors are an actually required service. And I like the "if he can get accepted into medical school." I don't know anyone here who COULDN'T get into medical school that had a 3.0 GPA or better

The number of work hours in various countries are irrelevant to your argument. It's how the hours are worked which is the key.

It is not irrelevant at all asshole

LOL, I know. How about advice from someone whose actually BEEN to Japan. Or lived there?

You're saying having a sample size of 20 people you bumped into in Japan is worth more than the business reports of the millions of workers. ok then, have it your way

[ecojeanne]

i think australia is a pretty good place to live. sunshine, beautiful men, cheap property, easy to live near the sea with a boat in the back garden, Paradise! if only it wasn;t so far away

[DoesntMatter]

what does having BEEN to japan have anything to do with facts?

It has to do with easily dismissing someone regardless of how dumb the basis of dismissing that person is

[Doc Durian]

No way dude. It's been a lucky country for a century for a reason. It's much better there than anywhere else I've been so far.

It's been the "lucky country" because Australians keep calling it the lucky country.

I've been around, and I've spent a considerable amount of time in Australia.

It's an overpriced shithole full of fattened bureaucrats, an overtaxed blue/medium white collar underclass, no Bill of Rights to speak of (Unless you plead your case to the producers of ACA: Australian Current Affair), a collapsing medicare system which they're barring more and more working people from rightfully accessing according to the original charter, the banks are an oligarchy, the people lax, and the real estate where there's any fresh water (more or less around the costs) is priced out the realm of the average home in other parts of the world with similar populations.

Don't get me started about Arsestralia.

[ecojeanne]

overpriced?! no way dude...i compare countries by their price on micky dee's check it out, you get a hell of a lot more for the mun over ther

sure they only introduced GST in recent years .... a hell of a lot later than other countries