Premarital Education?

[Junket]

However, more and more I keep finding that the people I meet have parents that are content to support them through college while they dick around. I registered and financed my own car by 17. What happened to taking responsibility?

What do you all think?

You're really riding high on this, "I'm more mature than everyone else my age"-kick, aren't you?

[lahnnabell]

You're really riding high on this, "I'm more mature than everyone else my age"-kick, aren't you?

What's it to you? Care to add to the actual discussion at all?

[Junket]

What's it to you? Care to add to the actual discussion at all?

I'm beginning to notice a pattern in your threads as having similar overall theme.

That's what I'm actually more curious about.

[lahnnabell]

I'm beginning to notice a pattern in your threads as having similar overall theme.

That's what I'm actually more curious about.

I'm curious now. Elaborate, please.

[Junket]

I'm curious now. Elaborate, please.

No, I'm tired.

I will say that while the idea of a "premarital class" is appealing in theory, but it would not take long for a course like that to receive a lot of criticism to point of being phased out. Besides of course, religious based schools, which probably already implement that kind of education in their curriculum.

[lahnnabell]

No, I'm tired.

I will say that while the idea of a "premarital class" is appealing in theory, but it would not take long for a course like that to receive a lot of criticism to point of being phased out. Besides of course, religious based schools, which probably already implement that kind of education in their curriculum.

Yeah, I thought about that too. I'm sure there would be a ton of issues with the class, the coursework, everything. I think it would certainly be invaluable, but to get everyone on board with that would certainly be quite a job. Sometimes it just takes the right person at the right time to implement it though.

[doppelgaenger]

My news gets worse... I'm from Boston. The capital of one of the most highly educated states. Sad, isn't it?

I was taught basic MLA format through high school, but they never called it MLA. They taught us how to string compound and complex sentences together like puzzle pieces. I never heard the words "Annotated Bibliography" until late in college though.

My ex roommate came from Boston. He was full of shit. He was like 1/16 NA, but thought he was an 'indian' (In SD, this means not just a person with indigenous heritage, but someone who lives on an indian reservation who grew up here in the culture, as opposed to someone with heritage that grew up in the 'white' world) I lived on an indian reservation for 4 years and I'm more indian than he is! I'm Cherokee, though, not Sioux. On top of that, he was the biggest moron who couldn't even pass "Elementary Algebra" after failing it 3 times. And that's beginner algebra! That's what they teach in grade school! Still, he thought he was smart as shit with some revolutionary ideas to bring to the art world. He was really just a simple-minded fervert that liked to draw pictures of decapitated women with gas masks sewn onto the neck.

[lahnnabell]

My ex roommate came from Boston. He was full of shit. He was like 1/16 NA, but thought he was an 'indian' (In SD, this means not just a person with indigenous heritage, but someone who lives on an indian reservation who grew up here in the culture, as opposed to someone with heritage that grew up in the 'white' world) I lived on an indian reservation for 4 years and I'm more indian than he is! I'm Cherokee, though, not Sioux. On top of that, he was the biggest moron who couldn't even pass "Elementary Algebra" after failing it 3 times. And that's beginner algebra! That's what they teach in grade school! Still, he thought he was smart as shit with some revolutionary ideas to bring to the art world. He was really just a simple-minded fervert that liked to draw pictures of decapitated women with gas masks sewn onto the neck.

He sounds more like a sorry excuse for a human being nevermind a Bostonian or Native American.

[doppelgaenger]

He sounds more like a sorry excuse for a human being nevermind a Bostonian or Native American.

Indubitably. I do have good news about Boston, though. My cousin got her degree there and she's happily married and living there, too. She's a lawyer.

[Gribble]

I think stupid people are going to engage in stupid marriages and smart people aren't. It doesn't matter if you make 'em take a class on it or not.

[vashti]

I think this is a terrible idea. Better to make this class a prerequisite for a marriage license, and make couples pay for it themselves. Our schools are already overburdened with trying to teach basics.

[bluesummer]

I don't think you should be allowed to procreate unless you have a decent job, or you're with someone who does.

I could give a shit if people get married or not, I just can't stand it when people have children when they're too young, too stupid, or can't support them.

[Alvy]

Even if you have a decent job, that doesn't mean you'll be a fit or even competent parent. Plenty of delinquents out there with white collar parents.

[Mish]

Yeah, I think our innate sense of selection really sucks. We're less in tune with our bodies and minds thanks to the way our society is headed. I think we'll eventually evolve into robots. I hope I get to be a Transformer

I agree, I also think that our innate sense of selection is always under pressure, social pressures, pragramtic pressures and the fact that perfection is unachievable, something that leads to sacrifices in how we ultimately select.

The problem for relationships and for marriages in the west is that there is too much choice and a culture of freedom, which is great in many respects, but not when it comes to where collective support is needed. I think premarital education is a good idea, but it's of little value by itself. It really needs to come in a package with many other important factors to be useful. These factors should include a supportive environment conductive to flourshiment of peaceful co-existance, in conjunction with family support and ofcourse the right chemistry of the partners themselves. This sounds like a lot to ask for, but when you think about it a lot of this comes as a package in many eastern cultures.

[bluesummer]

Even if you have a decent job, that doesn't mean you'll be a fit or even competent parent. Plenty of delinquents out there with white collar parents.

No, but at least it would stop the flow of people who don't contribute to society having children out of boredom so the taxpayers can raise them. Those children usually take a cue from their parents and become just as useless.

I moved from the city out to the 'burbs, and was shocked to realize everyone out here gets married between 19 and 21. If they're not pregnant/knocked someone up first. I can't count how many couples I've met who are in their late 20's, have two or three kids and are going through an ugly divorce. THEY should be used as an example to kids in high school. " Look kids, this is you if you get married young and push out babies instead of doing something useful with your young life." A close second is the welfare moms that are 20 and already have three kids. This town is a life lesson in itself. I need to go back to the city.....ugh.