yeah I dont know the older girl myself... so I cant talk about her really, and I havnt. But I do have a suspicion she aint no good (from what my buddies ex has told him) that this girl is 1) trash talking my buddy 2) getting his ex involved in dumb shit... for example shes still 20 but this chick can get her into diff bars and clubs to go drinking and 3) shes a fat ugly ho and my boys ex is gorgeous, shes using her. Shes using her as bait. Ok that last part was purely a crazy speculation but still. You see where im going?