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    There were so many problems, like not destroying the country to ever loving shit like and keeping their military resources intact so they could use them for the new regime

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndiReloaded View Post
    If you read history, long drawn out wars NEVER lead to any good. They just drain the resources of the countries at war & increase the chance mistakes get made. If you must fight, you get in, win, get out. That's good military (and economic) strategy.
    That's what I supported. I supported the invasion. I supported getting Hussein out of power. I didn't support the fact that we stayed as long as we did.
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    Well, remaining there for longer is a consequence, not something you would've chosen, and essentially the effect of poor gathering of info (if anything this was proved by the "weapons of mass destruction"), figure that after the muhajeedin fighting the Russians it should've been pretty obvious that conventional warfare didn't work then, didn't work in 'nam, and wouldn't work in Iraq.

    Or the option would be to pull out despite how things turned out and face the media shitstorm of entering a country based on bad intelligence without U.N approval and leaving it as a bunch of separatist sectors that borders on anarchy, and worse off than what Saddam would've conceived if he had a chronic migraine condition.

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    I'm all for Hussein's execution. Except it shouldn't have been our responsibility to take the man. If the Iraqi people were tired of living under his thumb they should have risen up and done away with him themselves with US backing. Instead, we sent our young men and women into another man's country, fought a war for him, bled and died for him, and for what?

    **** that. If I could I'd raise Hussein from the dead in exchange for the 4200+ we've lost.
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    Well, there were rebellions taking place after the gulf war, and while the U.S had urged it it did not provide any assistance, and never did for the years to come other than in the manner of bombing a few military installations to use an an incentive.

    To be honest Hussein wasn't much worse than any other dictators, and a lot better until things got out of hand ever since the Iraq-Iran war.

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    I remember that period leading up to invasion of Iraq. It was surreall. It was lunacy. I saw people drumming up for the war with their main reason being we're stronger than them, so we should bomb them all to hell. I saw some true colours of people who I would normally consider decent people. The reasons used for the invasion were all fake, but it was imposible to argue against it. People had this strange "bloodlust twinkle" in their eye. It's like they were posessed. They wanted blood. I felt this is what it must have been like to be in a Colosseum watching people fed to lions in Rome some 2 milliniums ago. All veneer of humanity and civility was suddenly washed away. I couldn't understand why, these people living half a world away wanted so much blood.
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    Mish, step back and look at that dramatized bullshit you just wrote. Why do you have to write current events in such a philosophical way? It's not that special

    BTW, Coliseum fights were in good taste, it was sport and entertainment

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoesntMatter View Post
    Mish, step back and look at that dramatized bullshit you just wrote. Why do you have to write current events in such a philosophical way?
    Why do you have to write what you write with such intense arrogance and ignorance?

    Quote Originally Posted by DoesntMatter View Post
    BTW, Coliseum fights were in good taste, it was sport and entertainment
    I wasn't talking about the fights. I was talking about innocent people being fed to lions, while crowds cheered them on.

    That's what I felt I was witnessing back then. It was disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishanya View Post
    Why do you have to write what you write with such intense arrogance and ignorance?
    Because you wrote your post with a lot of drama. Of course by replying like this I am affirming your statement that my response was arrogant and ignorant, when it was neither. Just because I think you're full of shit doesn't say anything about how I feel about myself, I don't pose as a pseudointellectual like some do

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    DM, I hate to break this to you, but I have learned a lot more from Mish's posts than yours. You are currently only studying things I already know about. But you don't have any additional life experience that adds depth to make it interesting.

    Its what I said before about you criticizing ppls ideas without actually having created any of your own.

    FWIW, I'd *like* to hear more of your original ideas, DM. The tiny tidbits you have rarely flashed sound like you could have a lot going on in that fine brain. I dunno why you are so reluctant to air them. Its good for you to air them out, esp in a safe environment like this place where noone gives a shit if your ideas are dumb.

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    Give my ideas about what? WHAT do you want to hear my ideas of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndiReloaded View Post
    You are currently only studying things I already know about.
    Other technical threads make me highly doubt this

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    DM, like Eco, I have forgotten more than you know. Come back and talk to me once you have been *accepted* to med school, k?

    I'll just leave out the 'will ever' (know) part, b/c that's debatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndiReloaded View Post
    DM, like Eco, I have forgotten more than you know. Come back and talk to me once you have been *accepted* to med school, k?

    I'll just leave out the 'will ever' (know) part, b/c that's debatable.
    Forgetting a law of thermodynamics is a kind of fundamental thing to forget

    And do you really think your undergrad experience was tit for tat with mine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoesntMatter View Post
    Just because I think you're full of shit doesn't say anything about how I feel about myself, I don't pose as a pseudointellectual like some do
    Yeh you just post self righteous, inflated, arrogant, ignorant, out of touch with reality garbage


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