Aethist or Religious?

[Gribble]

Intellectual circles like to pretend that is the case

And uppity conservatives like to pretend they're being discriminated against.

[DoesntMatter]

Being a white male, I had more difficulty getting into college than any other demographic, so I was only discriminated against in that respect

Luckily, however, society cannot take away the innate genetic skill they think is present in white males. I mean, if people other than white males get preference into colleges and society feels compelled to apologize to them for our history, there has to be some amount of inequality that they can see

[DoesntMatter]

Oh and btw, I'm only "conservative" in most regards because I can do math

[Only-virgins]

A religion thread reaching once again over 11 pages....never saw that coming.

[Lipp]

"An atheist doesn't have to be someone who thinks he has a proof that there can't be a god. He only has to be someone who believes that the evidence on the God question is at a similar level to the evidence on the werewolf question."

Go John McCarthy!

[Hugabear]

I pray but I don't belong to any certain religion

[DoesntMatter]

"An atheist doesn't have to be someone who thinks he has a proof that there can't be a god. He only has to be someone who believes that the evidence on the God question is at a similar level to the evidence on the werewolf question."

Go John McCarthy!

The greatest mathematician of all time, Carl Gauss, was extremely religious, as were many of the other greatest mathematicians such as Leonhard Euler. Religious men but with some of the greatest reasoning abilities of men

[IndiReloaded]

So what, DM? Great physicians let blood & put hole in ppls heads. It was *done* at the time.

And, according to Dawkins research, many scientists and mathematicians who were *apparently* religious, actually were not. They were just careful not to go against the powers that be of their time.

Einstein is often quoted as being religious b/c of his God/dice quote, but he actually was atheist. He's pretty clear that God = universe to him. Not an omnipotent entity.

[doppelgaenger]

The greatest mathematician of all time, Carl Gauss, was extremely religious

Oh, and he came from Germany. Like Einstein. ...the intelligences of whom any two civilized monkeys from America couldn't come up with together.

[DoesntMatter]

Actually lilwing the US has 3 times the Nobel prize winners as Germany. And unlike Germany, we're a heterogeneous society and unlike some of the German people, research is not our crack

And Indi, Euler and Gauss were both genuinely religious, not even like Einstein. Both were also far smarter than Einstein. Euler argued for the perfection of the Bible and Gauss was just extremely religious by all accounts. I know you would prefer that all smart people were atheists, but many of the smartest men have actually been religious

[IndiReloaded]

You are still ignoring my point that they were products of their time.

Mendel was a priest. In those days, education and religion were a lot more highly coupled than it is today.

[Gribble]

Oh, and he came from Germany. Like Einstein. ...the intelligences of whom any two civilized monkeys from America couldn't come up with together.

Americans are representatives of the world. Calling us stupid is calling Germans, Italians, Mexicans, British, Chinese and whatever else stupid. Of course our inventions are made by German Americans or X Americans. Aside from a handful of Natives, those are the only Americans.

[Mish]

He's pretty clear that God = universe to him.

That's a pantheist view, a lot of Religious people fall into that category.

Though I personally agree that there is a difference between Religious people and Theists. There doesn't have to be a connection between the two. Einstein could have been a type of Theist but not necessarily Religious.

[IndiReloaded]

Mish, Einstein was quite explict in that he didn't believe in a personal God. Just an FYI.

[shh!]

Lots of Jewish people don't believe in a personal god, but still believe in god.