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Thread: Please help..... *Should my long term boyfriend of 2 years pay for me?*

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    Women in their 20s are now earning more than men of the same age, research indicates.
    Women of the SAME AGE.
    Mary Curnock Cook, chief executive of the Universities and Colleges Admission Service, discovered the trend while researching the gender gap in education.

    She argued that the figures demonstrate that women’s pay is finally beginning to reflect the higher standards achieved by the fairer sex on leaving school and university.
    Your contention only applies when the woman has gone to school and gotten a higher degree (at one time, it didn't matter even women who had a degree didn't make as much as a man).

    In order to use your statement accurately, Girl, the study would have to been done on women and men with the same amount of education and then studied them doing the same job to see who earned what.

    But there's a big caveat -- the so-called reverse gender gap applies only to women who are unmarried, without children and younger than 30-years-old.
    From the US. Study that also goes on to say it is because more women than men are going on to post secondary educations. Once Op finishes school she will likely be able to earn more than her bf now is.

    I did not read that women make up 50% of the workforce or that women make more than men in general.

    Despite the good news for younger women, for those over 30, the gap in pay remains, with women earning 80 cents on average for every dollar that men do.

    Anyway, you've provided a couple of studies that Op can show her parents to bring them up to the 21st century in their thinking with regards to her future earning power so that's one positive.
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    You are right there is no real equality in the sexes....men still expect the woman to cook clean and take care of the kids, as well as holdng down a full time job. No f ucking man can ever do that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by smackie9 View Post
    You are right there is no real equality in the sexes....men still expect the woman to cook clean and take care of the kids, as well as holdng down a full time job. No f ucking man can ever do that....
    As a man, I take offense to that statement.....and have no argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smackie9 View Post
    You are right there is no real equality in the sexes....men still expect the woman to cook clean and take care of the kids, as well as holdng down a full time job. No f ucking man can ever do that....
    I find that pretty offensive. You know I have full custody of my son from a previous relationship because his mother is a waste of space abuser who decided she was bored with looking after a kid. I've had him since he was 3 (he is now 9 yo, and last time she was supposed to have him overnight she called to cancel as she was too drunk - try explaining that to a kid!), and still managed to work a full time job and juggle everything. It's not easy, but we manage, so do many many men with children who's wife / partner has left to pursue a single party lifestyle, and ditched her part of the responsibilities on the dad.

    And I know plenty of guys in my position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Field View Post
    I find that pretty offensive. You know I have full custody of my son from a previous relationship because his mother is a waste of space abuser who decided she was bored with looking after a kid. I've had him since he was 3 (he is now 9 yo, and last time she was supposed to have him overnight she called to cancel as she was too drunk - try explaining that to a kid!), and still managed to work a full time job and juggle everything. It's not easy, but we manage, so do many many men with children who's wife / partner has left to pursue a single party lifestyle, and ditched her part of the responsibilities on the dad.

    And I know plenty of guys in my position.
    I think she was making a generalized statement. Its pretty true in fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by smackie9 View Post
    ....men still expect the woman to cook clean and take care of the kids, as well as holdng down a full time job. No f ucking man can ever do that....
    wanna bet. id argue all day long with that statment, theres a few who can and still manage to work 11 hours a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott green View Post

    God! I can't believe people think like this! Its like the whole womans rights and equality thing just never happened!?
    The women's movement allowed males to quit maturing into men, who now believe women should work, raise the kids, keep the house, AND order the family social life so the men are able to sit on their ass and play video games or watch porn on the net, employment is optional.

    Nicole - I think if you both were happy with the arrangement you had before your parents stepped in, stick with it. You should absolutely reciprocate, or your BF will feel unappreciated, but you should only be paying for what you can easily afford (as should he) so as not to build up any resentments towards each other.

    Your parents may wish your boyfriend were more generous with you because they love you and want someone else to love you just as much. Generosity is just one obvious way that people demonstrate love. Do they KNOW this guy loves you? Is it obvious? Maybe this is their real concern...
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    Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?

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    Of course if you are forced into a situation where you have full custody, but I'm not talking about that sinario. I'm speaking about the husbands and BFs that have a wife or GF there. The roll of child raising, house keeping, cooking, etc while still working full time, falls upon the women. I do not know of any man that works full time, and lets his wife come home and wait for dinner, kids are all fed, laundry is folded, bills paid, etc, and all she has to do is maybe take the garbage out, go out to the garage to grab a beer, and then plop on the couch to only doze off until dinner is ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smackie9 View Post
    Of course if you are forced into a situation where you have full custody, but I'm not talking about that sinario. I'm speaking about the husbands and BFs that have a wife or GF there. The roll of child raising, house keeping, cooking, etc while still working full time, falls upon the women. I do not know of any man that works full time, and lets his wife come home and wait for dinner, kids are all fed, laundry is folded, bills paid, etc, and all she has to do is maybe take the garbage out, go out to the garage to grab a beer, and then plop on the couch to only doze off until dinner is ready.
    Then i'll speak about all the Wives and girlfriends who do the same thing. Your posts are disrespectful and have no statistical evidence to back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vashti View Post
    Your parents may wish your boyfriend were more generous with you because they love you and want someone else to love you just as much. Generosity is just one obvious way that people demonstrate love. Do they KNOW this guy loves you? Is it obvious? Maybe this is their real concern...
    Would YOU love a girl who keeps ragging on at you that you should be paying for EVERYTHING everytime you go out, just because youre the one with the penis? I know if I were in that position, after 2 years of her going on about it, I think there would be major resentment setting in on my part. If this guys still with her after 2 years of this attitude, and not ditched her for it a long time ago as most guys would, he must REALLY love her

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    this post if off topic...half it can be deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott green View Post
    Would YOU love a girl who keeps ragging on at you that you should be paying for EVERYTHING everytime you go out, just because youre the one with the penis?
    I wasn't under the impression she is doing that, and obviously, if you read my post in its entirety, you would have seen that I don't think he would... As the mother of a son, I am also concerned about the way (some) women feel entitled to what he earns, and have encouraged him to expect some sort of reciprocation so he feels like more than a wallet. It isn't that hard to see that nice girls want to spoil their men, too.

    Your point begs another question, though: if she nags him for two years and he is resentful, why doesn't he man up and break up with her already?
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    Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfhb View Post

    Many women say they want equal rights but really they dont. Equal respect is what they want and DESERVE! There's a big difference
    I like you.

    But I want to say that wanting equal rights doesn't mean one intends to exercise them. I wanted the right to work after having babies, but I never intended to do so because I think it's much healthier to have kids being raised by their mommies rather than day care. Obviously, I needed to meet up with a man who was generous by nature, because a good percentage of young males today wouldn't want to give up the extra income if it didn't benefit them *personally*.
    Last edited by vashti; 08-10-11 at 12:09 AM.
    Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?

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    I like him too however: I want respect and equal pay for equal work. Why are women over the age of 30 still only earning 85 cents to a man's $1.00? What is the reasoning behind that I wonder?
    “The willingness to accept responsibility for one’s own life is the source from which self-respect springs.” ~Joan Didion

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    so your limited to buying that extra pair of shoes a week

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