What do men in relationships really think when watching porn?

[ctr916]

That's interaction with someone he could possibly meet up with and it's the first step in cheating as far as I'm concerned because there is a chance of an emotional connection and an emotional affair taking place. In video or mags... an emotional connection is impossible. There's the difference.

What you are referring to is something guys have to do as well; so, why are women "victims" and not men?

[DannyH]

half of the stuff he thinks is porn isn't classified as porn. web cam lives shows do not fall under the pornography label. I blame my exe's passion parties for knowing this crap. If your girl throws one for her friends do yourself a favor and leave the house

[ctr916]

What is the difference between professional women engaging in porn with webcams versus non porn with webcams that depict the same thing?

[DannyH]

Go look it up like the terms you use that you don't understand.

[Wakeup]

What you are referring to is something guys have to do as well; so, why are women "victims" and not men?

Who the fk said anything about one sex as opposed to the other. If it were "she" that was camming with other men then she would be crossing a relationship boundary just as much as any man would be. Very simply so that you can understand: It is not an acceptible thing for a man or a woman who is in a committed, monogamous relationship to be doing. If a woman was camming behind her mans back then he would be a victim of her lack of relationship boundaries.

[ctr916]

Go look it up like the terms you use that you don't understand.

No need to get upset. I was merely asking you if you knew; to me there is no difference. You are always welcome to ask for clarification rather than resort to fallacy for your Cause.

[ctr916]

Who the fk said anything about one sex as opposed to the other. If it were "she" that was camming with other men then she would be crossing a relationship boundary just as much as any man would be. Very simply so that you can understand: It is not an acceptible thing for a man or a woman who is in a committed, monogamous relationship to be doing. If a woman was camming behind her mans back then he would be a victim of her lack of relationship boundaries.

I brought it up because it seems only women complain about it and not guys.

[Wakeup]

Yea.. well you've obviously not been reading any forums around here lately then.

You know what would be grand? You stopping trying to make every thread you post in a gender issue... of course it's your perogative if you continue doing that but it won't help with enlightening people with your "normal knowledge." Wowzer O_o

[Stillits]

Thank you for your responses. Since I don't know, what category would live web cam shows fall under if not porn then?

I think that I should also note that it's a one way live cam though, she doesn't see him. But in my opinion it still adds another dimension to watching porn (or whatever it is), one that is of less comfort. Had it been a two-way thing I wouldn't have had a doubt in my mind that he'd be out of the watch but as it is a one way thing with him being the watcher, I don't know. People have different boundaries and I need to do some thinking to figure it whether this is enough breaking something otherwise good for.

[Wakeup]

Thank you for your responses. Since I don't know, what category would live web cam shows fall under if not porn then?

I think that I should also note that it's a one way live cam though, she doesn't see him. But in my opinion it still adds another dimension to watching porn (or whatever it is), one that is of less comfort. Had it been a two-way thing I wouldn't have had a doubt in my mind that he'd be out of the watch but as it is a one way thing with him being the watcher, I don't know. People have different boundaries and I need to do some thinking to figure it whether this is enough breaking something otherwise good for.

She can see him if he has a cam and pays for a private show. He can also chat with her in private when/if he pays for the priviledge. Once in private they can exchange private MSN/skype whatever. I'm not saying he had done this but it's possible to be done.

[ctr916]

Yea.. well you've obviously not been reading any forums around here lately then.

You are welcome to point those out to me because from what I have been reading; guys don't come across as "victims" as much as women seem to. Why is that, if women can get laid easier than nice guys who don't have a petty cash fund for that purpose?

[ctr916]

Thank you for your responses. Since I don't know, what category would live web cam shows fall under if not porn then?

I think that I should also note that it's a one way live cam though, she doesn't see him. But in my opinion it still adds another dimension to watching porn (or whatever it is), one that is of less comfort. Had it been a two-way thing I wouldn't have had a doubt in my mind that he'd be out of the watch but as it is a one way thing with him being the watcher, I don't know. People have different boundaries and I need to do some thinking to figure it whether this is enough breaking something otherwise good for.

I am not sure I would have a problem with digital only forms of "cheating" for very long.

[DannyH]

Why is that, if women can get laid easier than nice guys who don't have a petty cash fund for that purpose?

Seriously explain this. I can disprove that so easily that a 1st grader could understand it.


Porn is anything that portrays the explicit sexual material for the purpose of sexual arousal and satisfaction. Pornography is the depiction of the act. Not the act itself. So that makes web shows and stripteases not porn. Different rules for both of them. It's also why some erotica can be found on the shelves in say a blockbuster video and not in the backroom with actual porn. Same with instructional videos of any sexual content. It's funny how it all is. Porn is sex but sex isn't porn.

[Unimare]

LOL. I have never found this to be an issue. Girls watch porn too. I would think my bf was weird if he didn't. We've even watched porn together. And we're perfectly happy with our sex life! It's true that when we have sex like three times a day or something I don't have time for porn. But he's not around ALL the time. And sometimes taking care of yourself is a different experience from having sex with your partner. Not better, not by any means, but different! So it's just a change

[ctr916]

Seriously explain this. I can disprove that so easily that a 1st grader could understand it.

I thought is was a self-evident truth. Are you claiming that women can be honest for sex and not guys, but have a more difficult time enjoying short term relationships with guys? Many women claim guys are willing to lower their standards merely to obtain sex, why would only guys need to lower their standard if it was easier for guys to be honest with women regarding short term relationships when no money is being considered?

Wealthy guys who can afford a five thousand dollar an hour petty cash fund may be able to get laid easier than some women; but that is usually not true of guys without recourse to that wealth in our money based, mixed market, political economy.

The proof is, I have never had to lie to a woman for sex whenever I had a petty cash fund for that purpose. But, can't seem to get laid by being consistently, that moral and that ethical, for free. Yet, I would not have a problem if women told me that they needed to confirm a hypothesis which states that if they use guys for sex long enough, a guy will eventually either clamor for a relationship or overcome his commitment phobia, simply to avoid getting used for sex as much by women who have higher sex drives than men.

I agree to disagree. Sex is porn, simply because porn is sex. Can there even be "porn" without sex being involved? What is the difference between live porn on a stage and sex in a bedroom regarding that physical act between two consenting adults? If there is no difference, then why distinguish; therefore, porn is not bad, in and of itself, but could be bad when used for badness and not goodness. In my opinion, porn should always be used for goodness and not badness.