What do men in relationships really think when watching porn?

[Sonrisa]

per wiki: In many cultures, the basic characteristics of masculinity include physical prowess (strength, fitness, and a lack of laziness), courage, wisdom, and honourable or righteous behavior.

that is true of russian culture

[VincenzoG91]

In case you didn't know it; our federal Constitution was gender neutral from inception and our Ninth Amendment ( a part of our Bill of Rights) also applies to women.

American women did not have the right to vote until the 19th Amendment was ratified in 1920.

[ctr916]

Profiles? I met my bf in real life. He knew I had some issue with it before we were a couple as I was in another relationship and talked to him about being upset about it. It was normal porn but other things like real girls and ex talking to other women and stuff.My ex told me he looked at them because I was ugly and fat. He said no one would ever wanna have sex with me because I was hideous.

I used to watch porn with my first bf. I didnt feel threatened then. Maybe after my first break up when he left me for another girl and my other ex that abused me mentally eg calling me worthless, fat, ugly..etc and physically abusing me has made me feel this way.

I cant help that it hurts me. I know I'm pretty and worth something but Im so scared they turn him on more than me. Im scared he'll wake up one day and not want me. It isnt just the porn. Its just worrying he wants someone better than me. Why would anyone want me. The porn just proves to me I'm not good enough.

He probably didn't really mean; it can be a habit with some people and you shouldn't take too seriously, even if it hurts at the time.
Some guys may find it easier to "manipulate" women in that manner than to simply argue them into "submission" I think it depends on the communication skills available to each individual and their presence of mind at the time.

I think your logic may be engaged in "self-defeat" mode. Why is any current boyfriend with a girl who he verbally abuses, if she is not really good enough to be with? Why not start with some simple goals and gain confidence in accomplishing some of them every day. Taking better care of yourself is always a good investment.

"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven." - John Milton (1608-1674)

[ctr916]

do men have to be masculine in order to be called men?

I think we just need to have a penis; affirmative action can take care of the rest.

[ctr916]

American women did not have the right to vote until the 19th Amendment was ratified in 1920.

That was a simple moral failure on our part because we did not have a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge then.

Women should have been granted the right to vote simply by petitioning for redress of grievances and appealing to our federal Constitution regarding any infringement of the privileges and immunities of the citizens of the several States under Article 4, Section 2.

[tremolo]

I dont mind him lookingat women and appreciating them it is actually getting off on it that makes me feel bad.

This is exactly how I feel.

[ctr916]

It isn't our fault we can't spend hours on foreplay and not get off.

[VincenzoG91]

ah, right, who was the wise man who said that in the future all boys will be girls?

I'm picturing you holding a bloody pair of pruning shears right now.

[Sonrisa]

I'm picturing you holding a bloody pair of pruning shears right now.

i imagine myself to be more of a leader commanding dykes to castrate males.

[ctr916]

Is that what feminazis think about?

[ctr916]

In my opinion, porn should be used for goodness and not badness. It can be instructional if you are willing to wade through tons of porn to find decent "tutorials"; especially for some of us nice guys who don't get a lot of practice, and need some more "conceptual knowledge".

[tremolo]

In my opinion, porn should be used for goodness and not badness. It can be instructional if you are willing to wade through tons of porn to find decent "tutorials"; especially for some of us nice guys who don't get a lot of practice, and need some more "conceptual knowledge".

Instructional for whom?? Porn doesn't teach men anything about what women want or need to get off. It's almost solely meant to appeal to male fantasy and desire. More often than not, it portrays women being used by men as they want, with no regard for them other than as sex toys, or women performing for men to that end, while their own wants and needs go unattended.

You're better off reading self-help books on how to please women.

[DannyH]

Problem isn't with porn. The problem is they had guys who would rather watch porn then get it with their women. My girl is naked and in the other room or watch porn..... I'm going to my girl every time. smackie9 said it the best though its more about the sex then the actual women because its true. Lol watching porn is morally wrong. That is just a matter of perception. Some people find rubbing one out wrong. Some people find sex before marriage wrong. Hell some people find marriage wrong. Then the whole all men will become women. If you really want to look at it. Look at the development during a pregnancy. If you really want to look at it all guys start off as female.

[ctr916]

Instructional for whom?? Porn doesn't teach men anything about what women want or need to get off. It's almost solely meant to appeal to male fantasy and desire. More often than not, it portrays women being used by the male as he wants, with no regard for her other than as a sex toy, or women performing for the male to that end, while their own wants and needs go unattended.

You're better off reading self-help books on how to please women.

I think I have learned more from porn than from women I have been involved with regarding sex and sexual techniques. Did I mention I am a self-professed nice guy? In my opinion porn can teach a lot in the same manner that youtube has a lot of instructional material that is useful; such as the g-spot and how to find it. I think you may be stereotyping porn; all of it isn't really like that. Besides, visual porn can be more informative since a streaming video can be worth thousands of words on a printed page.

I have read cosmo tells all; and it was informative, but not in the same manner as a video showing the same thing, such as the dynamics involved. I have to admit it is more difficult to find stuff such as tantric yoga than it is to find debbie does dallas videos. I think I have covered a lot of conceptual ground that may have taken months, if not years to acquire from books or be perpetually ignorant of how ergonomic women can be. Thank goodness for the Information Age.

[ctr916]

Problem isn't with porn. The problem is they had guys who would rather watch porn then get it with their women. My girl is naked and in the other room or watch porn..... I'm going to my girl every time. smackie9 said it the best though its more about the sex then the actual women because its true. Lol watching porn is morally wrong. That is just a matter of perception. Some people find rubbing one out wrong. Some people find sex before marriage wrong. Hell some people find marriage wrong. Then the whole all men will become women. If you really want to look at it. Look at the development during a pregnancy. If you really want to look at it all guys start off as female.

I wonder if women complain because it makes it more convenient for men to engage women in their games, by analogy; especially if they are not in the best of moods. Like for example the SO starts to nag or play some game that may involve some male friends. In the past, the guy would have to go find a chick to "get back at her" and that could be more expensive and time consuming for guys than it is for women; porn on the other hand, involves a variety of women whom a guy can have cybersex with, even if only asynchronously.

So, as far as I am concerned, porn has "leveled" the playing field somewhat by giving guys access to a variety of women that they would not have had access to in the past. That could be what annoys women the most; a form of male equality while not becoming female.