He made me cry for the first time yesterday

[lahnnabell]

He said he was most upset with me because he felt like I expected him to be prepared when he was just along for the ride (to hang with his friends). That's his personality. He doesn't want to be team lead. He doesn't want to plan ahead and he felt like I was pressuring him to be that guy. Maybe I was. Take me to a hotel, I know what I'm doing. Drop me off in the woods and I'm clueless as to what to do or expect. That would have been a moment where I would have liked to learn from someone more knowledgeable.

Literally, all he brought was the mattress and a change of pants. He told me to grab pillows and a blanket. I've only been camping once and I was so little I don't remember much. I brought my toothbrush, wet wipes, a sweatshirt, deodorant and was sure to wear glasses instead of contacts.

I should have brought breakfast because he didn't bring that either.

I've had a couple of outdoorsy, Eagle Scout boyfriends and I have to say, their knowledge was quite a turn on. Seeing them take charge in situations and showing leadership, major turn on for me. Laila, this is great! You have officially identified a dealbreaker thanks to this situation! Trust me, if he was acting like a little pansy about this, it would only get worse from here on.

And seeing all of this information now, I must say that I think the reason he didn't give you details was because he had no clue what he was doing and didn't want to admit that to you. What a baby.

[LailaK]

Logically, I know it's great and I'm glad it happened so it can be over now instead of later.

Realistically, it still hurts.

[nerdy_guy]

I've had a couple of outdoorsy, Eagle Scout boyfriends and I have to say, their knowledge was quite a turn on. Seeing them take charge in situations and showing leadership, major turn on for me. Laila, this is great! You have officially identified a dealbreaker thanks to this situation! Trust me, if he was acting like a little pansy about this, it would only get worse from here on.

And seeing all of this information now, I must say that I think the reason he didn't give you details was because he had no clue what he was doing and didn't want to admit that to you. What a baby.

I'm not outdoorsy, but being well prepped doesn't require outdoorsy skills either, hell, even my mother-in-law brings food and water when were going to a freakin' mall!

[rain.man]

I really love camping and hiking, so I kind of hate it when people say they're going camping only to inflate an air mattress and sleep in their cars. Really? I kinda wish my boyfriend were more into nature-y stuff like hiking, but I'm afraid his knee probably won't allow him to do the type of hiking I like without issues.

One of my exes always said "if there's a bathroom within walking distance, it isn't camping". I always thought she was joking until I took her with me on a 10-day, 100-mile hike through the Smokies. A woman who can thrive out in the wilds is truly a rare gem.

[nerdy_guy]

Logically, I know it's great and I'm glad it happened so it can be over now instead of later.

Realistically, it still hurts.

Getting hurt now wouldn't be so bad compared to getting hurt in the long haul

[lahnnabell]

One of my exes always said "if there's a bathroom within walking distance, it isn't camping". I always thought she was joking until I took her with me on a 10-day, 100-mile hike through the Smokies. A woman who can thrive out in the wilds is truly a rare gem.

I agree Some of my best memories were made while hiking and backpacking.

I really like and respect the type of leadership and knowledge it takes to thrive in the wilderness. Leadership in general is very sexy.

[Indignant]

Considering how he handled everything with Laila, he doesn't sound like much of a guy to me at all *grin*

And yeah, who the **** goes camping without a flashlight? Hell, what kind of guy doesn't carry a flashlight in his car? Doesn't anyone carry emergency kits in their cars anymore?

even i have a huge ass flashlight in my car at all times

[LailaK]

Even I have an emergency kit in my car that includes tools and a flashlight. My dad put it there, but so what, it's there!

Meh, I'm trying to get excited over the prospect of finding someone new who will really like me for me. The more I think about that the better I will feel. That's the one plus about having a strangle hold on your emotions. I can get over guys quickly if I just don't think about them.

[Gigabitch]

Lalia, your boyfriend is lame. He has no business camping, and someone should take away his Man Card.

You have no business camping either. I think you're pretty clear about that now.

This is just one more example of how this guy is inconsiderate toward you and extremely selfish. I don't really know how you could have come to the conclusion that you love him just because you wanted to give him another chance. I don't see how you could love a guy like this.

But then, I never liked him much.

If you ever plan to go camping again, please post a thread about it and we outdoorsy types will tell you what you need.

[LailaK]

I didn't know that I loved him at all until I started to hurt so much at the prospect of losing him. I dont' cry over guys, I move on to the next, but this hurt. I'm assuming it was love if it hurts now that it's over.

I'm going to Hawaii with a girlfriend of mine who is a lot more outdoorsy than me. She says I need to step out of my comfort zone and I agree. We're going scuba diving, surfing, hiking, kayaking, and whatever other outdoorsy thing she can think of. The motto of the trip is to do and experience everything... but I don't think we'll be camping. If I ever do go camping, I will go with someone who is well prepared and I'll do my own research first (including posting a thread). It'll be a while before I go camping though. I like modern bathrooms.

Rest assured Giga, that boy is gone for good.

[IndiReloaded]

Your BF sucks, Laila. I read your story and thought 'wow, inconsiderate'. Plus, who camps in the back of an SUV. Is he afraid of bears or bugs? Why go camping then?

You tend to fly off the handle yourself tho I'm pretty sure you already know this. Right now, you are selecting for BFs that you can still justify your behaviour with. But your lack of self-control will cause you grief when you finally meet someone you'll have to step up your game for.

Anyway, this too shall pass. Feel better soon.

[LailaK]

Yes. I know what my issues are. As I mentioned before, I stuff and stuff and stuff my emotions until I finally explode. I've been compared to a dormant volcano when that happens. I don't say that with pride it just is what it is. I'm working on it.

[nerdy_guy]

Yes. I know what my issues are. As I mentioned before, I stuff and stuff and stuff my emotions until I finally explode. I've been compared to a dormant volcano when that happens. I don't say that with pride it just is what it is. I'm working on it.

If you're like this, you need a boyfriend who can dish out a lot of punishment. Otherwise, you'll end up changing boyfriends like there's no tomorrow.

[ecojeanne]

chivalry is dead, he acted like a bitch, what's his name? sally? he's pathetic.

as for you...3 months into the relationship and you're getting that upset? get a grip.