Afghanistan War

[Sonrisa]

Obama is ordering 30,000 more troops to the Afghanistan War. Why won't he leave Afghanistan alone? It's no threat to US as far as i am concerned.

[Junket]

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[Mish]

It will be a threat once US leaves and Taliban takes over the country again. The problem with Afghanistan is US never defeated it's enemy and they are coming back 10 times stronger.

[Junket]

It will be a threat once US leaves and Taliban takes over the country again.

S'what I'm talkin' 'bout.

Wipe out the inhabitants and colonize it.

It can be the 52nd state.

[IndiReloaded]

Has there *ever* been peace in that area?

[misombra]

obama is annoying me. he's taking bush's fuk ups and making them worse. my crystal ball says he won't see a second term.

[CocoChanel]

It wouldn't be smart to abandon the operation that has already been started. The best thing to do is finish the job with a different strategy. The camps are training their people to become terrorists and there are MANY of them; many of participants as well. They need to be shut down. Their land needs to be colonized until they establish a stabilized and safe government that doesn't pose as a threat to our nation.

[IndiReloaded]

obama is annoying me. he's taking bush's fuk ups and making them worse. my crystal ball says he won't see a second term.

He's doing a fine job. The problems he inherited aren't to be solved overnight. There's always a crisis point before any solution can be made. I think part of his problem is his Secretary of State. What the hell is Hillary doing these days anyway?

[Cbrider]

I am going to stand by my resolution of simply bombing that region of the world off the face of the earth.

Have they produced anything remotely helpful for themselves or the world?

Survivor: International Edition

[Lipp]

It was doing fine as a republic in the early '70s, but of course having it as a cold war playground stuffed it all up.

And all of you hard-talking "Hey, let's just wipe it all out and be done with it", I hope you enjoy going down in history in the same class as other tyrants who had the same idea.

[Mish]

The problem Obama inherited is actually a gigantic one. Bush could have put an end to Taliban 7 years ago when they were in disarray, but he ignored them and let them rebuild and re group. Now they control one third of Pakistan and could topple both countries if the scales are tipped in their favour. I'm sure a few people would change their position once they saw a nuclear armed Taliban with free access by Al Qaeda to nuclear weapons. Though by that that time it will be too late to change anything.

I think Obama is doing the right thing. He is negotiating with Pakistanis how to squeeze the Taliban from both sides, what's needed is some kind of a pincer movement from east and west to flush them out from their mountain hide outs. But given the number of provinces they control, this will take many years to accomplish. US should ready itself for a long conflict in the region if it wants to eliminate this serious threat.

[Cbrider]

Bush could have put an end to Taliban 7 years ago when they were in disarray, but he ignored them and let them rebuild and re group.

Rumsfeld, as the secretary of defense, advised Bush to not pursue the Taliban with full force because he feared a backlash from them.

When the worlds most powerful military stands down out of fear of retaliation, we have a serious problem.

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I am not military strategist, but honestly, I will never understand why we didn't just carve up the mountains with brute force to track them down. Sure, there will be international outcry from some countries, but at some point you need to put your foot down and make a statement.

If you harbor terrorists or enemies of world balance, we will systematically flatten every inch of your country until they are found.

This type of problem will persist until the U.S. decides to jump in with both feet when they launch a full scale assault.

[IndiReloaded]

Ignoring volatile areas of the world nearly lost us WWII. Things are even more connected today.

What's needed is a better global peacekeeping service with some actual teeth. Right now, US is taking the brunt, which isn't good for her either b/c there's always this delicate dance b/t national interest and being a good global citizen. If the US and other nations could be proud partners of a global peacekeeping force, actually capable of making cohesive decisions, then the whole issue of certain actions perhaps being against specific national interests could be tolerated.

Right now, Obama is stuck b/t rock and hard place for decisions related to the ME.

[IndiReloaded]

The problem Obama inherited is actually a gigantic one. Bush could have put an end to Taliban 7 years ago when they were in disarray, but he ignored them and let them rebuild and re group. Now they control one third of Pakistan and could topple both countries if the scales are tipped in their favour. I'm sure a few people would change their position once they saw a nuclear armed Taliban with free access by Al Qaeda to nuclear weapons. Though by that that time it will be too late to change anything.

I think Obama is doing the right thing. He is negotiating with Pakistanis how to squeeze the Taliban from both sides, what's needed is some kind of a pincer movement from east and west to flush them out from their mountain hide outs. But given the number of provinces they control, this will take many years to accomplish. US should ready itself for a long conflict in the region if it wants to eliminate this serious threat.

Point is, they aren't there alone. Nor should they be. Canada supports the activities in Afghanistan. Of course, for those who follow global news, we are going through a real shit-spatter right now re: detainee treatment.

See? US isn't the only country this kind of thing happens to.

[Gribble]

One nation after the next has been poking Afghanistan and accomplishing nothing but making it a bigger threat. Honestly, I agree with CB. Peace will only be known once the sands are turned to glass and the cities to ash. Since that isn't really an option...