Drinking alone....

[Hollywood]

The reason how I got the nickname Hollywood from my family...
The first song I new, The first song I ever learned all the words to.
Well at least tried to say all the words. hahaha

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHP3svO704s"]YouTube - Kool & The Gang - Hollywood Swinging[/ame]

[Doc Durian]

Oh don't get me started with this, I hate ****ing music elitists.

Guess what, I've studied music for twenty years. I play seven instruments, and have played everything from classical to pop to jazz. I belonged to a jazz ensemble.

I listen to every single genre of music that exists. Every single one. I enjoy every single one, and appreciate each for what it offers. It's ALL music. Just because it's not to your taste, it doesn't make it lowly or deserving of contempt.

I can just as easily listen to Brahms, Elton John, Frank Sinatra, Metallica, or The Four Seasons, to name a few out of thousands. That means I have far superior taste in music to you. That is all.

"When music elitists misread, disparage, and slip in their own puddle of ego fueled hypocrisy - Next - On Jerry Springer".

Go back and read where I pretty much called anything but rap, music. At no time, either, did I slip in a list or brag sheet. My issue relates to rap, not to your insecurities or misplaced chest beatings.

You actually play 8 instruments, you forgot yourself.

As for your "superior taste in music" comment, it's moot. You have no manner in which to quantify such a silly statement.

[tooxshort]

Rap and Hip Hop are separate entities to me.

But you have to understand what they are first ... There is so much that goes into Hip Hop music ... they still follow the same rules as any other genre ... Scales, chords, chorus, hook, verses, beats, etc ... it's an art form like all music. I guess music is in the ear of the listener.

Hip Hop is music ... period.

It shouldn't even be an argument because it's a fact.

[bluesummer]

As for your "superior taste in music" comment, it's moot. You have no manner in which to quantify such a silly statement.

Rap is a form of music, whether you want to admit it or not, which I know you don't. If it has rhythm or melody, it qualifies as music. By saying it's not music because you don't like it, you're being a music snob....but with no real way to justify it.

My comment is not moot, I justified my opinion with my experience and skills. You just gave your opinion.

[IndiReloaded]

My opinion from those vids is that Muse is awful. Sorry. Same for most rap.

I will run to that eminem song, tho (Lose Yourself?). Its good at the very end for a steep hill.

But concerts w/crowds that large and raising their fists in unison make me uncomfortable. Mob mentality.

For dancing, I like calypso and latin music.

[misombra]

ya'll hip hop haters haven't even heard good hip hop. only the shit that's on the radio.

i liked that one muse song doc put up. but the others aren't really my taste. i wouldn't say that it's not music though. cause that would be stupid.

[IndiReloaded]

I also like Afro-caribbean music and some of those ethnic/electronic blends. Alabina? When its blended w/arabic? Some short, 3-letter word... anyway, that.

[Doc Durian]

There is a difference between music and spoken word framed to a beat. William Shatner is just one prime example of this, as well as the Greenwich village set of yesteryear.

I won't entertain the opinions of idiots on this.

You don't have to like or dislike music to agree with me, only, be able to accurately identify it when you hear it.

Bluesummer is an idiot on this particular point. Her ego got the better of her and she blurted before thinking.

[IndiReloaded]

Wow. Someone demonstrates an ego? LOL, quick, call the Ego Police!

I'd think you'd be the first person to call crap on that kind of thing, Doc.

If you want to say something 'isn't music', you're entitled. Its not exactly a defined science. I've called many paintings 'not art'. Jackson Pollack comes to mind, but there are idiots who spend millions on his kindergarten works. I tend to shrug at those who would argue.

[tooxshort]

I won't entertain the opinions of idiots on this.

It doesn't take a genius to know that Rap & Hip Hop are genres of music. Therefore, they are, in fact, music. Even if you take the lyrics/spoken words away, there is still music behind those words, isn't there?

* Main Entry: mu·sic
* Pronunciation: \ˈmyü-zik\
* Function: noun
* Usage: often attributive
* Etymology: Middle English musik, from Anglo-French musike, from Latin musica, from Greek mousikē any art presided over by the Muses, especially music, from feminine of mousikos of the Muses, from Mousa Muse
* Date: 13th century

1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony
2 a : an agreeable sound : euphony <her voice was music to my ears> b : musical quality <the music of verse> (Perhaps this is where you disagree?)
3 : a musical accompaniment <a play set to music>
4 : the score of a musical composition set down on paper
5 : a distinctive type or category of music <there is a music for everybody — Eric Salzman>

I figured music to one's own ears would be anything that could make him/her move and groove ...

[IndiReloaded]

LOL. Rap isn't music. Its discordant vibrations that beat upon my eardrum in a generally displeasing manner.

Sorry.

I figured music to one's own ears would be anything that could make him/her move and groove ...

I wonder if animals dance to hip hop?

[Illusional]

shut the f*ck up!! someone, get me a damn beer!!!

raverboy

[tooxshort]

LOL. Rap isn't music. Its discordant vibrations that beat upon my eardrum in a generally displeasing manner.

Sorry.

Sorry, it's already a fact ... It's music. Maybe not music to your ears, but in the grand scheme of things, it's definitely music.

I wonder if animals dance to hip hop?

That sounds like an insult.

[doppelgaenger]

How is arguing about whether/not rap is music over the internet making good use of your time?

I personally don't think crappy music is limited to one or several 'genres' of music. On another note, is music something objective? Can music be defined in more than one way? Is 'music' a more ambiguous term for something personal? After all, music *is* personal, whether you're making it or listening to it. People relate to it through experience. Music is a mirror of self-reflection. And mirrors reflect regardless of the frame around the borders. The problems are the distractions and obstructions blocking one from their self-reflections. In other words, if you can relate to a song or a style, that's all that matters.

Now allow me to share what I'd quite possibly consider the most invigorating composition ever written. The lyrics are deeper than ya mama's pussy.
Pure genius behind this one. I mean that.
Purrfekt.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDj7DuHVV9E"]YouTube - The Chemical Brothers - The Salmon Dance[/ame]

[misombra]

damn. indi and doc sure know how to fuk up a party.