NEWS / girl learned about family's murder on facebook

[Yggdrasil]

I'm staying out of this one... it's just going to be another rant.

[IndiReloaded]

Doc likes to rant. I want to hear his argument.

[Doc Durian]

No, she just refused to sell you something from HER store. Perfectly acceptable. You don't have the RIGHT to purchase whatever you like, wherever you like. You do have the right to boycott her store and tell others about your experience, but (right or wrong) she wasn't under any obligation to do anything for you. Per your own comments about responsibility.

On the other hand, if you had gone to a doctor (which you refused to do), they WOULD be under an obligation to provide you treatment.

Consistency, Doc. If you want to live your life the way you say, then you've got to allow others their rights as well. Her right was to NOT act, according to your values. No?

It wasn't her store, Indi.

She made an arbitrary unwarranted decision which discriminated and could have possibly affected my health negatively had it been the only option.

Your doctor comment is also a red herring and your insistance on this line of reasoning still doesn't work.

I make decisions for myself and live by them. She made a decision for a stranger and didn't have to live with the possible outcomes. Different bag of fish.

You've lived in Canada too long, Indi. It's eaten away any real sense of self determination.

[IndiReloaded]

Still, she made a decision it was in her power to make (she made it--you were denied, right?). So, seems like she exercised HER right to her decision and you lost that power struggle. Unless you were prepared to take it to another level. I mean, you could have gone to the actual owner and explained yourself, got her fired, but how likely do you think the owner would agree with you?

Certainly, while you may not agree with her decision you must respect the fact she acted according to her beliefs and didn't allow you to intimidate her into a decision she felt was wrong?

Isn't that what responsibility is all about? Yours, for not having what you needed to self-treat and not wanting to see a doc, hers for deciding she was not going to support your decision to self-treat?

You agreed to disagree. Seems about right to me. Shrug.

[Doc Durian]

Still, she made a decision it was in her power to make (she made it--you were denied, right?). So, seems like she exercised HER right to her decision and you lost that power struggle. Unless you were prepared to take it to another level. I mean, you could have gone to the actual owner and explained yourself, got her fired, but how likely do you think the owner would agree with you?

Certainly, while you may not agree with her decision you must respect the fact she acted according to her beliefs and didn't allow you to intimidate her into a decision she felt was wrong?

Isn't that what responsibility is all about? Yours, for not having what you needed to self-treat and not wanting to see a doc, hers for deciding she was not going to support your decision to self-treat?

You agreed to disagree. Seems about right to me. Shrug.

What seems about right to me is your sociological leanings taking the leap based on the subject matter, your "belief", and not the actual point of it all.

Had it not been medical supplies, but instead bottled water in my desert town with a noted arsenic and dysentary tinged tap supply, would the supermarket cashier have had the right to refuse selling me a 12.5 litre bottle of distilled water because she disagreed with my westernized appearance and presence, or larger than normal denomination of bill paid with, or because I didn't have the bag boys tip out in my hand ready to be placed for essentially what didn't need to have a plastic bag?

Mind you that no indigenous person is prepared to drink the tap water no matter how many supposed water works assurances have been made over the many decades of local mining.

You confuse personal responsibility with socialism, where one takes it upon themselves to apply their sense of personal responsibility as the status quo upon others.

You talk about rights frivolously, Indi. I don't appreciate that and I refute you here and now.

Don't toy with me. I'm not in the mood.

[Only-virgins]

Who the hell just goes around bludgeoning entire families and kids who are 12 and 9? Sounds like a ****ed up place to live. Who give a shit how she found out? the tragedy here is that a entire family has been murdered and not that facebook sucks.

[Junket]

Shit, I'd rather be shot in my sleep than f*cking beat to death.