She'll break up with me if I don't f*ck her.

[bluesummer]

That's what I need to hear, what's the big deal? What makes it any better than oral? I've completely forgone the idea of sex up until now, the urge has been thoroughly crushed by my will and stubbornness.

I think it's like wha Charlieboy said about the emotional connection. I don't feel as much of one if we're giving each other oral (although I enjoy it - immensely). But having our bodies fused together, his breath in my ear, looking me deep in the eyes while we do it.......damn, it's got me all hot just thinking about it. Can't wait til he gets home from work now

Beyond that, most guys I know say oral is great, but it doesn't compare to the way a vagina feels. You'd have to ask the other guys here to do a comparison here, I'm not exactly the expert on this one. I do know that I prefer a good hard bang over oral.

[DoesntMatter]

Do it Fras

[anachronistic]

I think you need to wake her up in the middle of the night by putting it in her vag.

Not really, she might get angry at that. But seriously, I think you're being overly mature about that. Take a risk. You can handle it, man. Wait a little while though, atleast until things cool down after that conversation. Surprise her.

[Junket]

She probably hasn't given it a second thought since last night while I'm over here stressing over it.

Regardless, this is something I'm going to ease into. These conversations are way to serious for me to see any joy or pleasure from the act itself.

Sorry, I know I set the tone that way.

I need to stop looking at it as a chore, or a death sentence.

Plus, I don't cave under pressure, I harden. Pressure drives me to push back, to become defiant. That conversation last night and the ones I've been having here have me on the defensive.

Natalie gave me some good advice. She was just suggesting kinds of condoms and lubes she uses and trusts. Making sure I'm aware of the do's and don'ts. Explained how so long as her and her boyfriend take the normal precautions, sex is simply a fun thing for them to enjoy.

Fun.

What is that?

I feel like I've forgotten, lately.

She's right, I can be too serious, and too responsible.

[anachronistic]

Sometimes you have to takes some RISKS to have a little fun. *evil laugh*

I don't like being pressured, either... well, I guess it depends on what was said and what it is. It shouldn't have sounded all... ultimatum-y, if you know what I mean.


edit:
I continually see the source of these problems as a lack of poor communication. Perhaps if she was a little bit more relaxed and welcoming about it, you wouldn't be so uptight about it. I'd probably take it up again in conversation with her. Not sure exactly how to word it though, maybe you do, since your on the spot. You should definitely consider making love to her very soon, though. You need to get going, because the going is good!

[Junket]

She bet me that I couldn't cum twice in one night, because I'm usually tired afterwards.

I proved her wrong, to her pleasant surprise.

I still think I could go 3 times.

If I'm going to be defiant, that's the kind of defiant I need to be.

I need to change my attitude, that's what it comes down to.

Sorry, I'm kinda coaching myself at this point.

If somebody else came onto this forum with this same situation, I'd wonder if they were gay.

I can hear 'em now: Don't be such a faggot.

[anachronistic]

Whatever motivates you.

Doesn't Amy just make you so angry sometimes that you just want to put your dick in her and pound away, like a jackhammer?

[Gigabitch]

Plus, I don't cave under pressure, I harden.

I think that's what she's hoping for, heh heh.

I would like to mention that I am one of those people who got pregnant while using condoms. Yes, it happens.

I think you should tell her that you'll do it if she can come up with a contraception solution that's better than 85%. So she doesn't like putting hormones in her body. Fine. I understand that. What's her alternative?

Regardless what people say, condoms aren't effective enough. They aren't. They are for "safer" sex. I think you are being a bit neurotic about it, but I totally understand where you're coming from, especially since I've actually experienced an unplanned pregnancy.

[Charlie Boy II]

yeah I'd feel dodgy relying only on condoms.

[squirrley]

Whether youre being neurotic about it or not, youre being realistic to yourself. I also became pregnant while using a condom. It does happen. If youre not ready youre not ready. Would you feel better or relieved if you did it? (I dont mean sexually satisfied either, of course you will but emotionally?)

You maybe overthinking this, but its something you've obvoiusly have great convictions about Fras. Im sure Amy loves with you every ounce of her and wouldnt pressure you anymore than she thought she could. You want to be a mutual decision. Its going to come up no doubt but Im sure if you talk to her she'll let it go for awhile. The tables are turned here, the gal wanting it NOW not the guy...youre going to make it well worth the wait for her!


Oh ya know, AFTER I became pregnant someone wise has said to me..."You think about EVERY man you sleep with and you decide IS THIS THE MAN YOU WANT TO BE THE FATHER OF YOUR CHILD?" because it does happen.

[Gigabitch]

Dude. She wants you. She wants you bad. That's awesome.

[Junket]

I would like to mention that I am one of those people who got pregnant while using condoms. Yes, it happens.

Booya bitches.

At least my fears aren't unfounded.

[Junket]

Anyway, right now I'm looking into maybe a combination of condoms/diaphragm.

Anybody have any experiences with the diaphragm?

EDIT: Nevermind...I just read you need a doctor to measure the woman before she can get an appropriate size. There's no way Amy is gonna go through that hassle.

[squirrley]

Well, you could go to a planned parenthood place.

[IndiReloaded]

Use a combination of condom & a spermacide. Those films are good (together w/something, not alone unless you're ready for the odd 'oops')). If you become regular, then she should go on the pill.

Your first time together should be special. I'd suggest coughing up the dough for a dirty weekend someplace nice. Rent a cabin someplace, or a nice hotel, its doesn't have to be tres expensive, but it should be something you will both relax & enjoy.

A nice sparkling wine & a flower for her (for after) is a cute touch. Make looooove to her Fras & be happy. She wants you, its all good.