alright people - question

[guyxd19]

yeah. i think ive got someone in mind. haha. he goes to my church tho. gah. i need an unbiased opinion. thanks shh i think once i get a hold of someone i can talk to personally i might be able to figure it out a little better.

now only 2 days to the football game...

[shh!]

Good luck! I'm going to bed now...

[whaywardj]

Your faith treats of your eternal soul, Guy, not your gonads. Though, once a faith devolves into a religion, most all religions would have you believe otherwise. The "one way" myopia of which all are religions are guilty.

Render unto Cesar what is Cesar's. Render unto God what is His.

I'd take the approach you seem to have chosen. Go slow and discuss it. There's really no reason at all to hurry it along, but there are many reasons not to.

BTW, the word "sin" was originally a (Latin) term in archery having to do with scoring (Like "love" in tennis, which, I find interesting, means "zero.".) "Sin" originally meant to "miss the mark." It's only an accident of language that the word now has a moral dimension attached to it.

[Junsui]

I didn't have it all planned out who I would lose my virginity to. I didn't really think of it as a big deal until years later lol. If you aren't ready, you aren't ready. Don't try to force something. I do think 3 weeks is a short time to be with someone, maybe 3 months is better. You said you guys got to second base and she wants to go to the next lvl, wouldn't that be third base? I don't know. Before you start having sex, you should be able to talk to your gf directly without going through her friend getting hints about where she stands on the relationship.

[shh!]

I didn't know that the base analogy was still being used. What is second base again? And oh yeah - I agree with Junsui.

[Tone]

I agree with shh!, don't let these guys talk you into abandoning your beliefs because THEY think it's okay, since THEY don't believe. Absolutely ridiculous.

Just slow things down. Hope everything works out.

[Tone]

Your faith treats of your eternal soul, Guy, not your gonads. Though, once a faith devolves into a religion, most all religions would have you believe otherwise. The "one way" myopia of which all are religions are guilty.

Render unto Cesar what is Cesar's. Render unto God what is His.

I'd take the approach you seem to have chosen. Go slow and discuss it. There's really no reason at all to hurry it along, but there are many reasons not to.

BTW, the word "sin" was originally a (Latin) term in archery having to do with scoring (Like "love" in tennis, which, I find interesting, means "zero.".) "Sin" originally meant to "miss the mark." It's only an accident of language that the word now has a moral dimension attached to it.

Oh c'mon now... seriously....

[guyxd19]

any action i take doesnt really entail that im abandoning my beliefs -

it just means that i found someone that i felt was so wonderful, so amazing that i could look past all that just to be with her no matter what.

i dont know, sheeit. im just babbling at this point.

[guyxd19]

oh and one more thing - i dont know if it changed the whole time frame situation.

but my gf and i, we hit this point about a month before we actually started going out where we were practically a couple - but you know. i dont know if it changes anyones perspective of it. but if you count that its almost been 2 months. hahaha.

im stupid

[Junsui]

Oh 2 months! Well get married!

I'm playin with ya!

[Rosebud]

Religion aside, I think you know your not ready for sex or at least that's what I gathered by your posts. Still make sure you have protection for when the time comes but I would still sit down with her and get both of your feelings about the situation on the table. Don't agree just because she wants to unless you truly feel your ready.

[Late_vamp]

so you got to 2nd base right? ok so you got to get a hold of the puppies .
now she wants to go downtown ... all you got to do is bring it there ... easy .

it doesnt mean necessarely sex right away , why dont you try touching her down there and fingering her , if things are really steamy , then eat her out , if she wants sex , ask for her to eat you out before it . then come up with something so you finish with her just blowing you , next time be ready for sex ... or play around with this for a couple of weeks , getting higher anticipation , when it will happen , both of you will be extremely happy .

3rd base , that pussy right ? and score is sex ... if i got it right

home run is basically a one night stand .

[clynn]

1st Base - Kissing
2nd Base - "feeling her up" and her feeling him out
3rd Base - oral sex??
Home Base - Yahoo. That'd be sex I believe.

[whaywardj]

Oh c'mon now... seriously....

I'm not sure what you're referring to by "seriously", Tone, or if you use the word in a sarcastic sense, but if it has to do the etymology of the word "sin," you might care to look here: [url]http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=266[/url]

Some etymologists hold that "sin" evolved through a wholly different line of usage and has nothing to do with archery. The one's I've read who hold this view, however, never go beyond Latin antecedents to the earlier Greek "harmatia" ('tragic flaw')...a term which, in Greek, also has relevance to theater. Interesting, I think, in light of TV evangelists.

[Rosebud]

See as I remember (from around middle school or somewhere around there)

1st base= kissing
2nd base=feeling up
3rd base= using fingers to explore both male and female
and then well you all know the last one..