im 19 years old, virgin... am i a loser?

[Don99]

Hmm who does that remind me of...


... can't quite put my finger on it...

Someone else that posted a thread about being a virgin but also blamed women for the fact?

[Only-virgins]

never take any steps to fix the situation.

What is broken that needs fixing exactly?

the best way to make sure you never get any is to walk around wearing ugly clothes you got at Walmart or something, not doing anything with your hair, and looking like a computer nerd stereotype, and being pale as a ghost.

Gordon Freeman = more chicks then you.

That ambercrombie and fitch look is as some say..played out..no one cares anymore..some chicks like guys who wear glasses and have messy hair..actually I heard that chicks like messy hair sometimes...I heard that from a reliable source a.k.a a chick lol. Pale..well thats just skin color..once again..whocares?. I noticed that some girls actually are starting to like common sense...hmm..a good thing I think. You are stereo typing. Funny..I always have some facial hair and I wear glasses...damn chicks love that for some reason so I keep that look. I love that 5 o'clock shadow . The way I see it is everyone has their own look.

[Don99]

What is broken that needs fixing exactly?


Gordon Freeman = more chicks then you.

That ambercrombie and fitch look is as some say..played out..no one cares anymore..some chicks like guys who wear glasses and have messy hair..actually I heard that chicks like messy hair sometimes...I heard that from a reliable source a.k.a a chick lol. Pale..well thats just skin color..once again..whocares?. I noticed that some girls actually are starting to like common sense...hmm..a good thing I think. You are stereo typing. Funny..I always have some facial hair and I wear glasses...damn chicks love that for some reason so I keep that look. I love that 5 o'clock shadow . The way I see it is everyone has their own look.

Oh wow where to start.

First I was speaking in general, I have no idea how Haxor dresses, I am just saying that the first step to getting a partner is being physically attractive. First impressions are everything.

I don't wear A&F, I just try to dress somewhat nice and presentable. A&F and American Eagle and all that is for kids. However it is not as you say played out, hell I went to dinner tonight and say a whole table of high school guys and girls wearing A&F and AE.

Also Gordan Freeman doesn't get any chicks, he is a fictional character.

I am not saying he should run out and get A&F and stuff, I am saying everyone should put a bit of effort into themselves, no matter what look you are going for. If you look [url=http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~jhelm/images/Justin%20nerd.jpg]like this guy[/url] you have a much lower chance of getting girls then if you try and dress with a little effort.

If you actually think people don't notice something like skin color you haven't been paying attention. Being pasty signals being unhealthy in a "mating selection" sense. Read up on human sexuality. In general we are attracted to people with even skin tone, not pasty zombies.

Think about it this way, who do you like more, some homely girl in coke bottle glasses that is pale as a ghost wearing sweatpants, or a girl that wears makeup and dresses well? If/when you look at porn what do you look for?

Women are the same way.

I noticed your typing style, sig, and claiming to be a Nihilist. Being an internet Nihilist is also for kids. That is so 1994, I mean read I Bleed For This. These guys had it down over a decade ago:

[url]http://www.textscene.com/archive/IBFT/ibft.html[/url]

Bottom line though, you say girls tell you what they like, but how about personal experience?

All the CS guys I know that dress and act the stereotype sit around saying they are a "long term relationship guy" not interested in one night stands, but then just think about a few girls all day, and are always in the friend zone with girls they meet.

Guys that don't look the part, and actually give a crap about they look don't have that problem.

There are exceptions to every rule of course.

I mean case in point, I have already slept with a virgin, I don't have to wish for it.

[Ellynn]

Nice pic of a loser guy Don.....lol

Anyways......I know I don't expect a guy to be like perfect. If he gets his haircut at a salon every 3 weeks on the dot......goes tanning, gets his chest waxed, goes shopping for cute clothes more then I do, and shaves more then once a day.....then Im gonna start wondering about his sexual preferences.

I mean regular up keep is a must. I mean if hes walking around with a unibrow, smells like B.O., dresses like he's not from this planet....let alone this decade, then of course thats not gonna be attractive.

You can get decent clothes just about anywhere.... It doesn't matter if its name brand or if its the "cheap" version. (I certainly don't go around checking the labels of a guy's clothes....and if a girl does that...thats just shallow..) If a guy is naturally tan its always a bonus. If he isn't I still don't care. If a guy looks presentable, normal, and smells good then he has nothing to worry about..... Oh and yes 5 o'clock shadows can be sexy just as long as the facial hair is not overgrown to the point of looking like a bum......

Now the guy's personality.......thats a whole other issue...

[Only-virgins]

I am just saying that the first step to getting a partner is being physically attractive. First impressions are everything.

And I am saying that what is "attractive" is relative.

high school guys and girls wearing A&F and AE.

I high-lighted the problem for you.

Also Gordan Freeman doesn't get any chicks, he is a fictional character.

I bet your a shit load of laughs at the table.

I am saying everyone should put a bit of effort into themselves, no matter what look you are going for.

What if they are not going for a look at all?

In general we are attracted to people with even skin tone, not pasty zombies.

It is rare that someone looks that white unless they have a skin cell desease. Most people have just different tones. What if everyone was a same exact tan....jeez...boring as all hell. The picture you posted...wow..I have never seen anyone in person look like that so ...sorry..

girl in coke bottle glasses that is pale as a ghost wearing sweatpants, or a girl that wears makeup and dresses well? If/when you look at porn what do you look for?

Actually. I love it when girls wear simple things like sweat pants and hoodies..those are awesome. Glasses are hot on a chick and I dont think they even sell THAT large of coke bottle glasses ..but the black ones (like weezer) on a chick look great. Porn?..I just look for pussy ...I never even noticed skin tone.

Women are the same way.

Not all of them. Everyone is different. You dont seem to understand that.

I noticed your typing style, sig, and claiming to be a Nihilist. Being an internet Nihilist is also for kids. That is so 1994, I mean read I Bleed For This. These guys had it down over a decade ago:

Well, you obviously do not know what nihilist means. Its not a life style you idiot. You can be a nihilist in the 1600 century or a nihilist in the year 3000...its not a fed that dies..its a type of philosophy. "Thinking life sucks is so 1994"..god..just typing that I have lost half of my brain cells thats how little it makes sense. My typing style? I have one ? lol

Bottom line though, you say girls tell you what they like, but how about personal experience?

What about it?

All the CS guys I know that dress and act the stereotype sit around saying they are a "long term relationship guy" not interested in one night stands, but then just think about a few girls all day, and are always in the friend zone with girls they meet.

CS guys? I hope your not talking about the game lol.I hope your not putting people in a group by a game ?lol..what about the mario or zelda guys? lol. Guy..listen..its just a game..entertainment.

Guys that don't look the part, and actually give a crap about they look don't have that problem.

The part?

There are exceptions to every rule of course.

Rules? what the hell? who makes these rules?

I mean case in point, I have already slept with a virgin, I don't have to wish for it.

Are you refering to me? ..thats hallarious. Guy..I dont want to sleep with virgins..Im not some voodoo believer who wants virgins for sexual sacrifice..I want a virgin because of people like you.

[Ellynn]

What the fawk is a "haxor"?


.

Not to intrude on your disagreement....but Haxor is who orginally posted this Topic.

[Only-virgins]

Not to intrude on your disagreement....but Haxor is who orginally posted this Topic.

ok then. Is that all?


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[lilwing89]

And I am saying that what is "attractive" is relative.



I high-lighted the problem for you.



I bet your a shit load of laughs at the table.



What if they are not going for a look at all?


It is rare that someone looks that white unless they have a skin cell desease. Most people have just different tones. What if everyone was a same exact tan....jeez...boring as all hell. The picture you posted...wow..I have never seen anyone in person look like that so ...sorry..



Actually. I love it when girls wear simple things like sweat pants and hoodies..those are awesome. Glasses are hot on a chick and I dont think they even sell THAT large of coke bottle glasses ..but the black ones (like weezer) on a chick look great. Porn?..I just look for pussy ...I never even noticed skin tone.



Not all of them. Everyone is different. You dont seem to understand that.



Well, you obviously do not know what nihilist means. Its not a life style you idiot. You can be a nihilist in the 1600 century or a nihilist in the year 3000...its not a fed that dies..its a type of philosophy. "Thinking life sucks is so 1994"..god..just typing that I have lost half of my brain cells thats how little it makes sense. My typing style? I have one ? lol



What about it?



CS guys? I hope your not talking about the game lol.I hope your not putting people in a group by a game ?lol..what about the mario or zelda guys? lol. Guy..listen..its just a game..entertainment.



The part?



Rules? what the hell? who makes these rules?



Are you refering to me? ..thats hallarious. Guy..I dont want to sleep with virgins..Im not some voodoo believer who wants virgins for sexual sacrifice..I want a virgin because of people like you.

don't argue with OV
cause everytime, he will shred up your post and make you feel like a fool...line..by line....by line.

[Don99]

And I am saying that what is "attractive" is relative.

What if they are not going for a look at all?

It is rare that someone looks that white unless they have a skin cell desease. Most people have just different tones. What if everyone was a same exact tan....jeez...boring as all hell. The picture you posted...wow..I have never seen anyone in person look like that so ...sorry..

Actually. I love it when girls wear simple things like sweat pants and hoodies..those are awesome. Glasses are hot on a chick and I dont think they even sell THAT large of coke bottle glasses ..but the black ones (like weezer) on a chick look great. Porn?..I just look for pussy ...I never even noticed skin tone.

Not all of them. Everyone is different. You dont seem to understand that.

Well, you obviously do not know what nihilist means. Its not a life style you idiot. You can be a nihilist in the 1600 century or a nihilist in the year 3000...its not a fed that dies..its a type of philosophy. "Thinking life sucks is so 1994"..god..just typing that I have lost half of my brain cells thats how little it makes sense. My typing style? I have one ? lol

What about it?

CS guys? I hope your not talking about the game lol.I hope your not putting people in a group by a game ?lol..what about the mario or zelda guys? lol. Guy..listen..its just a game..entertainment.

The part?

Rules? what the hell? who makes these rules?

Are you refering to me? ..thats hallarious. Guy..I dont want to sleep with virgins..Im not some voodoo believer who wants virgins for sexual sacrifice..I want a virgin because of people like you.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thank you for that. Thanks for proving my point. Another internet Ubermensch nihilist strikes again. Dividing a post line by line and not even reading what he is replying too. So much teenage angst man, when you finally get some it will go away I promise. Go read I Bleed For This, they did this exact same thing, they would find a post someone made, or an email. Divide it up and try as hard as they could to rip the person apart, usually losing the meaning in the proccess. Their biggest target? Anyone that had a real life.

Case in point, you ask who Haxor is, when he is the one that started the thread. Come on man your wannabe-nihilist angst is cutting off the bloodflow to your brain I think.

Let me point out some problems with your post without dividing it line by line.

First you are the one that brought up A&F. I never said anything about it. I pointed out it was for kids before you even did. Also I don't think it is going out of style, that kind of look is very in from what I have seen. That is neither here nor there though. You completely changed what I was saying into what you dislike obviously. I don't care about A&F, but obviously people that wear A&F really bother you.

I mentioned CS as in Computer Science, you would know this if you had actually read my posts instead of jumping the gun and making me a target for your internet angst.

I have my minor in Computer Science. I was pointing out that CS majors that act half way "normal", try and dress with a little effort, work out at the gym, spend time outside so they don't look pale as a ghost, and bother to do something with their hair do just fine with women. However the guys that dress and act like typical computer nerd stereotypes usually don't get any girls at all. Say they aren't interested in all those "whores" anyway, and are just looking for a long term relationship.........yet they never seem to be in one, always in the "friend zone". As I pointed out there are exceptions to this rule but they are rare. This is the "rule" I was refering too, this would be obvious to you if you had actually read my post.

THAT was my point. However keep talking about A&F or whatever.

As for what a Nihilist is, I know exactly what a Nihilist is. Besides what I have read in Philosophy classes I also like to read Philosophy as a hobby. I was just at the bookstore like 2 days ago looking at books by Kierkegaard since I haven't read very much by him.

You say you want a virgin because of people like me. What kind of people? I am really curious.

The best part is though, as I said, I have already slept with a virgin. It isn't something I have to dream about to the point that I make it my name on an internet forum.

I realize nothing I say will make a dent though, you are far too locked into the angsty internet nihilist persona to have any kind of real discussion. Whatever I say you will just pat yourself on the back for being so insightful when you are just running on self-defeating rage and not even understanding what I say.

Just a closing quote for you:

"He who despises himself nevertheless esteems himself as a self-despiser."
-Nietzsche

[Don99]

don't argue with OV
cause everytime, he will shred up your post and make you feel like a fool...line..by line....by line.

I seriously doubt OV has ever made anyone look like a fool except in his own mind, as I said the whole "I am a big bad internet nihilist" thing is beyond cliche now and not very difficult to argue with since it is all the same.

[Tone]

haha Don that was great.

Seriously. You straight called him out on everything...

*grabs the popcorn*

[Aaron Blanc]

im a 19 year old male, im a virgin... i never had a gf... i have few friends that are girls, i have friends... im not fat, im not ugly, im not stupid... im above average man, i NEVER gone to a club/bar or any place to meet women... am i a loser?

i hang out with my friends, their only 18... so i dont want to goto clubs by myself... what should i do?

wait for friends to be legal @ 19 and go with them or go by myself?

No, you are not a "loser". There is no "set" timeframe that the male body has to work around. You may have sex whenever you choose to. It seems like you are not really making an effort to. This is perhaps due to your lack in agressive behavior. This is not "bad". What is on the other hand "bad" is the influence of your peers to make you feel "bad" about not having sex yet.

There is nothing wrong with not having sex at 19, 20, or even later. For as long as you feel that you are ready, willing and able to have sex and you are making efforts to and "still" are not, then and only then are you a "loser", or better put, a beta male.

[Haxor]

ok, im not into computers, i care about my looks. and i dress the best i can when i go out.

im not a computer nerd/freak, but can u guys spare some advice to where to meet girls? and how to ask them out?

[Ekips]

To Don: Hey, guess what, you argued the same way OV did, line by line.

To Haxor: Spend one day experimenting with your hair in the mirror, different clothes tones and stuff. As for tans, don't worry about them. If some girl will dump you for being whiter than someone else, is she worth it? How to ask them out? Well, you can do it two ways. 1) Sublety: The friends to g/f change, risky but most of the time effective. Use subtlety like asking them out to a movie. If they ask to bring some friends accept, probably shy about going alone. Might not seem subtle, but hey, great friends go out to movies right? Then either hug her goodnight or kiss her goodnight (cheek reccomended, but if your feeling lucky go for lips) 2) Just plain asking someone if they want to be your g/f. Not such a great idea and I highly reccomend subtley. Big time. Don't even consider 2 unless your desperate for a fling thing.

[Ellynn]

Well........are you in college at all? If so is there anyone in class that catches your eye? Do you have a job? Do you ever see anyone you find interesting? (wouldn't recommend co-workers....but then again u never know...) Do you go to clubs? Do you go to parties at peoples houses where there are girls present? Do you go to the mall at all? Do you go to bookstores like barnes and noble.....or Borders...(i heard this is a good place to flirt from friends.) There is always online....but be careful. Make sure you see a pic first and meet somewhere public. Also make sure its someone from your general area. Agree to meet as friends....and really try to get to know her first before meeting. Chat with her alot online......get her phone number and talk to her on the phone first....

I mean you can find someone who catches your interest anywhere. I've noticed though it usually happens when your not actively looking...

When you do see them.......strike up a conversation. Just be friendly and casual. Maybe its someone you know already a bit or have something in common with.(This usually is easier then just going up and talking to complete strangers) Talk about your/her interests. Suggest hanging out and ask for her number. Take it a step at a time.